A radeon 8500 will show up as R200 in the system profiler of an apple machine. PC version was also radeon 8500. As Sean stated, there is no real difference except that the PC card had a faster core clock speed (275 v. 250 MHz). If the card isn't stable in your machine then you might have gotten a bum card or perhaps your machine is having a hard time dealing with the 8500 for some other reason. Maybe enabling all of the logging for your system log will shine a light on something. Jim On 7 Dec 2004, at 16:58, Kevin Willis wrote: > > On Dec 7, 2004, at 5:42 PM, Sean Collins wrote: >> >>> ATI said they can't identify the card without the P/N 102 number? >> >> The barcode label has this serial number, as well as the model name: >> "Radeon8500Mac64M" >> >> If someone has removed the label, there's no way to tell, since the >> exact same hardware was used for PCs too. The only difference was in >> the firmware, flashed for PC or Mac. > > I found a number on the card itself that is PN 109-85700-00. I looked > all over the ATI site, and found a passing mention of 109 part > numbers. I did a search of the site with that number that returned no > results. I now have 2 of these cards. One is in my G4, the other is > on the floor. I have tried a couple of times to flash it with a PC > Rom, but have had no luck yet. It's kind of hard to find a compatible > Rom when you don't know what card you are working with. Is the PC > version of the Radeon 8500 sold under a different name? All of the > Rom searches I have done have been unable to locate a PC version of > the Rom. BTW, I am attempting the PC flashes blind, because I don't > have a PCI card for the PC. Would that prevent the system from > booting to the "A" prompt? > > Thanks-- > > Kevin > > _______________________________________________ > G4 mailing list > G4 at listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/g4 >