[G4] Strange G4 issue solved

Johns Maillist mymaillist at mac.com
Tue Dec 21 03:51:54 PST 2004


Thanks for the info.
It was the ATI Updater for the Rom. I agree that the drivers for the 
previous ATI card were slower than the recent update from Apple. 
Thankfully, the latest update from Apple has resolved that issue.
John

>
> On Dec 21, 2004, at 12:40 AM, Jim Pacyga wrote:
>
>> When you say you downloaded "it", was it the Displays or the ROM 
>> Updater?  If it was the ROM Updater, try using the "Custom" option to 
>> back up to your original ROM.  I also had problems with the new ROM 
>> using my G4/500 with TV OUT - it would not wake up and remember to 
>> look for the S-Video, so I dropped back to the original 126 version 
>> ROM which after also backing ATI Displays to 4.2 seemed to restore 
>> the system to some level of normalacy (though I do believe that the 
>> 10.3.6+ ATI drivers are slower than the 10.3.5 versions - DVD 
>> playback seems to be choppy since that upgrade).
>>
>> Jim
>>
>>
>> On 15 Dec 2004, at 17:18, John wrote:
>>
>>> As a side note, after reading the original mail here, I decided I 
>>> NEEDED to update my Radeon in my G4 1.25 system.
>>> So, off I went, downloaded and installed it.
>>> All of a sudden, my system is DOG slow! My G3 Beige is running 
>>> circles around this system. I am not sure now what to do about this.
>>> I did look in Console, but as you point out here, I have no idea 
>>> what I am looking for!
>>> Any ideas?
>>> Thanks,
>>> John
>>>
>>> On Dec 15, 2004, at 11:55 AM, Al Poulin wrote:
>>>
>>>> It seems it would be a good service if you posted the problem and 
>>>> the fix to the Apple forum if you have not already done it.
>>>>
>>>> Apple posted the 10.3.6 update on 11/5/04.  You say Raedon's patch 
>>>> for ATI software was in early November.  Perhaps that was in direct 
>>>> response to 10.3.6.  There could have been problems on your G4 
>>>> after 10.3.6 which you did not notice until Apple's security update 
>>>> made things apparent.
>>>>
>>>> Apple sets standards for coding software which Raedon may not have 
>>>> followed until after the 10.3.6 updater.  Apple does not test its 
>>>> software against the thousands of possible third party 
>>>> modifications to its computers.  That is left up to us in realtime. 
>>>>  A lot of speculation here.
>>>>
>>>> But the hard question you raise is what about the people who would 
>>>> not know how to troubleshoot such a problem.  I have no clue what 
>>>> to look for in Console mode, which I understand is also called 
>>>> Single User mode in Terminal.  For folks like me, I guess the 
>>>> lesson is to check the web sites of all manufacturers of third part 
>>>> equipment and software installed on our Macs after any experience 
>>>> like yours.
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