Here is another thing you can do to help speed up Safari. It helped me quite a lot and I don't like turning JavaScript on and off. I left caching in the 1.4.2 module on so I will have to manually empty it periodically I guess but it took several months to get gummed up. Go to your utilities folder/java there are icons that are "Java 1.4.2 Plugin Settings" and another that reads "Java 1.3.1 Plugin Settings" double click on each of them. A window will pop up with"general/cache/certificates" click on the "cache" and click on the clear button. Do this for both java settings. This is from another forum and they said to Repair permissions and restart. Happy and speedy browsing. Ron-- -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: text/enriched Size: 748 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/g4/attachments/20041223/32163fdf/attachment.bin