I don't have room to set a 13" TV on my computer desk and I don't want anything that big. Also, you can't really divide your attention between two separate screens. A window on my Mac is the perfect compromise. Mel "The ardent golfer would play Mount Everest if somebody would put a flagstick on top." ~ Pete Dye On Feb 7, 2004, at 3:39 PM, rich northouse wrote: > Hi Guys, > > Maybe I am missing something, but what is wrong with an $80 13" TV set > w/video jacks? Go up to a hundred and you can get TV and built-in > VCR!! > > > rich > > > On Feb 7, 2004, at 11:54 AM, Daniel Brieck wrote: > >> Every TV recorded is going to have the problem of not being able to >> record and watch TV at the same time, unless the product has more >> than one TV tuner. Here is another suggestion and option if any of >> you have a somewhat powerful PC box laying around, you can put it to >> work for recording TV and then watch the recorded programs on your >> mac using quicktime. All you need is a pc with a Pentium III 600 MHz >> and Windows XP for best results (which is still not great) but don't >> try to make a TV recorder with Windows 98 it will not run more than a >> few days. Once you have the PC all you need then is a PCI / AGP tuner >> card. I would recommend an ATI all in wonder 128 card, because their >> cheap ($40.00 - 50.00) and work reasonably well. >> >> This is a good solution because it gets the work of recording TV off >> your mac and on to another piece of hard ware, which is how it should >> be. The work of recording and encoding TV takes a good deal of power >> and should not be happening with your Mac's precious CPU cycles, >> which in most cases we need every-bit of to get stuff done. A more >> ideal situation would be an independent set top Tv box that records >> TV and stores TV shows locally; however, unlike a Tivo this would >> allow you to also use your computer to configure the box and watch / >> transfer recorded shows to networked computers. >> >> So an independent PC box is almost ideal for recording TV. Also if >> you don't want to use Windows OS to do the recording a Linux OS can >> be made to do the job. However, I have no idea how hard it would be >> to get such a product running with any measure of success. I would >> even like to do this to my own current set-up to drop the Windows OS, >> because of its annoying quarks. (Ex's 1. Must enable / disable >> windows folder file sharing on a daily basis in order to successfully >> share /watch the programs recorded on a networked computer (mac or >> pc) 2. TV recording Stops with the ATI software after the Win Xp os >> has been running more than 18 Days, so must restart before then) As >> of yet though I have not had the time to try to get TV recording to >> happen on a Linux OS. It will probably not be easy , because getting >> stuff to work on linux can be a challenge. >> >> This is yet another way to watch recorded TV on your mac. Here is all >> you need >> 1 PC with a Pentium® III or similar processor (~ 500MHz or better) >> (128 MB of ram or better) (10 GB or better Hard drive) with a open >> PCI slot or upgradeable AGP slot. >> >> 2. A TV tuner card that supports TV recording and Scheduling( Eg ATI >> All in wonder 128 or better) >> >> 3. High Speed Network connection to your mac and other computers >> >> Dan Brieck Jr. >> >> On Feb 7, 2004, at 11:29 AM, Renita Williams wrote: >> >>> Thanks Jim, >>> >>> You are the first person to mention not being able to tape and view >>> at the same time. I wonder if this is a drawback of Formac TVR >>> also. I am now considering either the fire wire version of EyeTV or >>> Formac. >>> >>> Renita >>> >>> On Saturday, February 7, 2004, at 11:21 AM, Jim Burger wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> I use Eye TV on a Sawtooth >>> >>>> I've found no way to 'tape' and view at the same time though. >>> >>>> I can highly recommend it. Although I saw they have a new product >>>> out that works with fire wire(don't know if it also works with USB) >>>> that you might also check out. >>>> >>>> Jim Burger >>>