there has been 3rd party replacement batteries for the ipod for a while now (much longer than apple's service) and most are about 1/2 the price of the fruit. "They agreed to provide this information, and said they had no problem telling users how to solve the problem. I, in turn, provided webspace and bandwidth for them. The bottom line: after two days of lies and false starts, and milking my institution's generosity by providing almost 100,000 downloads and 0.7 terabytes of data transfer, they NEVER posted any information about how to solve the problem that they promised to post. Their agenda seems clear, and that's sensationalism, melodrama, and attention. The full email exchange is here:" http://das.doit.wisc.edu/neistatoriginal.txt that quote from the guy at u of wisconsin's it department that originally hosted the website pretty much says it all. these guys were out for their 15 minutes and a bit of sensationalism. there were other options, and they chose not to explore them. as for apple's pricing on repairs-well, its the same reason i dont take my car back to the VW dealer after the warranty is up - 2-3x going rate for labor, then about 4x markup on parts. not to mention the price v-tech wanted to charge me for a replacement battery for my cordless phone-i could have bought 2 new phones for it (lucky for radio shack).... being "creative" would have been posting the video and demoing self-replacement of the battery. my 2 bits sandor On Jan 3, 2004, at 7:44 PM, Franck wrote: > In the spirit of full disclosure, following is the Neismat brothers > point of view, which is posted at the top of the page I sent earlier. > > Two comments: 1) You guys thought that a (untold) $250 battery > replacement was acceptable? for an Ipod? for a car? for a PC? > 2) What happened to the "think different " spirit? Theses guys love > their Ipod and their Mac. They make music and film with it. As good > consumers, they felt they were being taken for a ride by Apple, and > they resolved the issue the Apple way: creatively. In the end, we > Apple consumers won: Apple offers a $99 battery replacement. > > >snip