At 22:56 -0800 1/3/04, Perry The Cynic wrote: >In general: lighten up. I do feel better this morning. Panther will get installed. With regard to case sensitivity I am told that, I can do it if Panther is running. I don't know if I can do it to the disk on which I intend to install while booted from the CD-ROM. Will Terminal work from there? >Beginning with 10.3, there's a new option when formatting a disk to create a case-sensitive HFS+ volume. It's only officially supported on Mac OS X server, but should work on consumer-grade Mac OS X. However there's no GUI tool to get this without using server. > >You can't convert an existing HFS+ file system to be case-sensitive, as far as I can tell. But Apple's command-line tools hdiutil and newfs_hfs have new options to specify case-sensitivity with HFS+. It looks like hdiutil will require journaling with case sensitivity, but that newfs_hfs will not. My main use for the G4 is UNIX and case sensitivity will make what I do more compatible with other machines to which I upload perl scripts and the like. I do want to do a clean install. If nothing else it will force me to review those custom hacks one at a time. I'm also told that under Panther a UNIX executable can be started up from the Finder. I may not need the AppleScript glue I now use to get them run at login time. But I worry that I will get a Terminal session that will require manual intervention as though I had appended a .command extension to the file name. Thanks for the hand-holding. And I wish I could write like Mr. Clancy. Doug -- Applescript syntax is like English spelling: Roughly, but not thoroughly, thought through.