no, both the philips player and itunes support one version of mpeg-4 audio (aka aac) -low comlexity. if you test a little bit, QT and itunes will recognize m4a, mp4, m4p, aac because the extensions dont alter the encoding of the file, it just has to do with the wrapper. aside from the copy protection on itunes music store aac files, apple is licensing the fully compliant aac/mpeg-4 audio codec for itunes aac support. any player/encoder quoting to offer the aac/mp4 compliance is licensing the same thing as apple. (thus the reason it is called a standard) to make itunes encoded files work, simply change the file extension to .aac sandor On Jan 5, 2004, at 7:38 PM, Daniel Brieck wrote: > No Go with the Philips EXP 301 > >> http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-to-external-url/ >> ref=mt_mo_view_5514/102-5397566-6820102?path=http:// >> images.amazon.com/media/i3d/01/MANUAL000007100.pdf&append-uid=no > > The product still will not play an Apple AAC .m4p file. Look in the > .pdf manual below and on page 12 you will see this: "How to make a > CD-ROM with MP3 or AAC files Record (“burn”) the music files from your > harddisc on a CD-ROM with your computer s CD burner. Make sure the > file names of the MP3 and AAC files end with .mp3 and .aac > respectively." > > So this means that it will not work. Why does apple even call it AAC > when obviously it is not the same standard because the file extensions > are different. .m4p (Apples Standard), not .aac( AAC standard) . > Should be more like 'Apple Audio Codec', for Apple to call it > (Advanced Audio Codec) is misleading, am i wrong? > > Also even if playing .m4p files was possible how would one go about > getting their songs to play on a AAC: MPEG-4 compatible CD player. I > think something like this would require more than a firmware update to > support apples AAC, so current firmware upgradeable CD/ MP3 players > are probably out of the question. There is no internet connection, no > computer link, no source of input to verify who is playing the file. > > Dan Brieck Jr. > > On Jan 5, 2004, at 6:14 PM, sr ferenczy wrote: > >> all the philips products listed there support AAC - here is philip's >> manual >> >> http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-to-external-url/ >> ref=mt_mo_view_5514/102-5397566-6820102?path=http:// >> images.amazon.com/media/i3d/01/MANUAL000007100.pdf&append-uid=no >> >> >> page 11 explains how to set up mp3 and aac cds for use... >> >>> So still the only option for playing AAC files on-the-go is >>> traditional Audio-CDs , and iPods. Does anyone here have any better >>> proof that says differently. >> >> so there is your proof =) >> >> sandor