Go to http://apps.ati.com/102lookup/index.asp Type in the 102 part number from the sticker on the back side of the card. This will tell you what it is. Jason -----Original Message----- From: Power Macintosh G4 List [mailto:G4 at lists.themacintoshguy.com]On Behalf Of csean at poc.it Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2004 6:12 AM To: Power Macintosh G4 List Subject: [G4] Mac or PC Radeon 8500 card? Hi all, Speaking of G4 upgrades... I just got my Radeon 8500 Mac Edition, which I'm putting in my G4/350 Sawtooth together with a Sonnet G4/1 Ghz; got both upgrades at good prices on ebay. As I was installing the Radeon, a thought hit me: is there any way to tell the difference between the Mac and PC Radeon 8500? I have no reason to mistrust the ebay seller, but given how many PC Radeon 8500s were sold and how easy it is to flash them for Mac.... Just thinking out loud here. But is there any way to look at the cards and tell if one is really an original Mac Edition card? It shows up in ASP in both 9 and Jaguar as a 64MB ATI, of course, and seems to work fine. Thanks, Chris ---------- G4ist, a listserv for discussion of everything G4. FAQ at <http://www.themacintoshguy.com/lists/G4.html>. Send a message to <G4-DIGEST at themacintoshguy.com> to switch to the digest. XRouter | Share your DSL or cable modem between multiple computers! Dr. Bott | Now $139.99 <http://www.drbott.com/prod/xrouter.html> Dr. Bott LLC 4-port USB Hub in translucent Graphite! Dr. Bott LLC <http://www.drbott.com/prod/ghub.html> Small Dog Electronics http://www.smalldog.com | Canon Digital Cameras | --Quicksilver & refurbished G4's arriving daily! | and Camcorders!! | MacResQ Specials: LaCie SCSI CDR From $99! PowerBook 3400/200 Only $879! Norton AntiVirus 6 Only $19! We Stock PARTS! <http://www.macresq.com> OS X News, Dr.Mac, Forums, Tutorials, Tips, Hints, FAQ?s - http://www.osxfaq.com