Yes, Mail.app is buggy. As for whether it is time to find another mail application, that depends on your patience. Things to try with this problem: 1) Make sure your Account => Advanced preference => Remove copy from server after retrieving a message is set to Right away. 2) Since you say it quits after downloading 3 or 4 messages, just use the Get Mail button over and over. That should do it. Or, you could set your General Preferences to Get Mail Every minute until you get all the messages. After that, set the preference to every 15 minutes or whatever works. 3) Now if you find that it is downloading 0 messages every time (not 3 or 4), you should go to the mail server you are getting your mail from and find out what message is clogging up the works in Mail.app. Delete that message. Try Mail.app again. If the problem is like mine was, it is one of the PayPal spam/trojans. The shareware application Mail Siphon can help here if you don't already have a way to get to the mail server. Glenn On Mar 6, 2004, at 03:58, Linda Hutcheson wrote: > Has this happened to anyone else? When I boot up Apple Mail I can see > it accessing my server (roadrunner) and a quick list of the number of > emails. But after downloading only 3 or 4 it quits downloading. I > ended up with over 2000 emails on the server and had to delete them > all from the website. > > I have Mail 1.3.2 running OSX panther on a mirror front G4. > > Any idea what is causing the problem? Is it time to find another mail > application? > > Linda