On Friday, Mar 26, 2004, at 07:26 Canada/Eastern, Anne Keller-Smith wrote: > A general question about de-installing: My impression has been > that most Mac programs do not require a de-install of the previous > software version, in fact the opposite - to upgrade the previous > version MUST be present. I am familiar with Photoshop, QuarkXpress, > Illustrator, Dreamweaver, etc. Uninstalling is one thing. Upgrading is another. > Is de-installing more properly a Windows method? Or have I > just had a narrow experience? You've hit upon a weakness in Mac OS. There is no system facility for uninstalling applications, as there is under Win. (Mind you, the Win mechanism isn't at all robust, but at least there is something. On the other hand, there is much less need on the Mac for something like that.) So, at this point, you're pretty much left at the mercy of the application's developer for the uninstall process. (1) Under Mac OS X, the simplest installation procedure is to drag an application's folder to /Applications. (A well-designed Mac application should require no more; and I'm wary of applications which require installers, especially third-party installers.) In this case, uninstalling is equally simple -- just drag the respective folder to the trash. (2) If the application was installed with Installer.app, often you can remove it as in (1); but that is not always enough. In case it isn't, you can go back to the original package and start Installer again. It may offer an Uninstall option (that depends on the installation script, not on Installer); but, even if it doesn't, you can get a listing of files to be installed (File > Show Files), so you'll know what to remove. (3) If the application was installed with a third-party installer, then all depends on that installer and the installation script. You can remove the application by trashing it, as in (1), but bits will be left behind -- although it's much less likely than in Windows that they will cause trouble. A well-designed installer and/or installer script will have an uninstall option, and it's usually best to use it; if a separate uninstaller is provided, use that. But in some cases you may be left to your own devices, and removing all the nasty bits may be a hairy process -- Norton Utilities is a notorious example. I keep track of the process by doing a listing of the boot volume immediately before running the installer, another immediately afterwards, and doing a diff on the two files. Admitedly, it's cumbersome and inelegant -- but I'm paranoid; I hate not knowing what's on my own hard drive. As in Windows, the procedures above will not remove files which may be created by the application after installation (e.g., prefs, logs, regs), but such files are (with rare exceptions) benign and take next to no space. If you really want to get rid of them as well, you must either find them yourself or use a third party utility (such as Angelo Scicolone's Prefs Overload <http://www.ziksw.com>) to do so. f