Status here ... spent two hours with Applecare this morning and did the removal of Preferences thing plus the uninstall/ reinstall. Still crashing. Attempted 2nd update to 6.2.9 but the updater cannot find the app. I'm looking right at it, though. There's no button to choose location. Tech says I'm looking at an archive install, and I really don't want to do that. Seems like a sledgehammer to fix a bent nail. Also repaired permissions - I thought MacJanitor did this? Will spend another hour d/l a new copy of the updater, in case corruption is the case, and then I'll have to decide whether to dump Appleworks completely and buy an old Classic copy of Excel. Not impressed at all. Thanks for letting me vent. Any other ideas are welcome, and thanks heaps for the help so far. You guys are impressive, that much I'll say. And ... that old Excel program works, and it seems I should have stayed with it. Anne Keller Smith Down to Earth Web Design G4 733mHz (OS X 10.2.0/Classic) 896 MB RAM, 40 MB hard drive mailto:earthpigz at earthlink.net http://www.downtoearthweb.com