[G4] Save and Save As not really working

Tue Feb 15 12:34:00 PST 2005

First, I want to thank Ron Steinke and Al Poulin for the help.  I am still
lost on why I cannot Save or Save As to a file in specific folder. If I put
a copy of the file (with the same filename) in a folder on the desktop, I
can open it, make changes and save the changes.  Both Save and Save As work
perfect as described in Ron's Basic Mac lesson #17. Each time it is saved
the file modification date is changed.

The host application can open the document in the suspect 'nested' folder
that is a folder within a folder on the same HD and it says it is saving the
document or replacing it when I use the Save As but the file remains
unchanged. The contents are not changed and the modification date remains
the same old date.  It acks like the file is locked but the Get Info says
nothing about the file file being locked and the application does not seem
to discover a problem.

Al, fyi the small rectangle is set to the open position in both folders so
you can see the View options and other goodies in the folder's menu bar.

This has bugged me long enough. I am about ready to trash the file and
folder chalk it up to an unsolved Mac OS mystery.

Thanks guys

Dick Kriss

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> Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 03:13:52 -0800
> From: Ron Steinke <ronsteinke at mac.com>
> Subject: Re: [G4] Save and Save As not really working
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> On 14 Feb, 2005, at 5:23, Richard M. Kriss wrote:
> 
> Can someone tell me why I cannot get documents to save in a nested
> folder?
> I can repeat the failure and this is disturbing in that the application
> (that I would rather not name) says it is updated the file but it is not
> being changed.
> 
> You can get the document saved in any location that you chose as long
> as you are saving it for the FIRST time and not using the "Save in xxxx
> folder selected by the application" function. The dialogue window gives
> you the option to select your choice of locations. All you have to do
> is use the dialogue window functions to navigate to the selected
> location and click on the SAVE button when you arrive where you want to
> be.
> 
> The second opportunity to save to the location you desire is when you
> use the "Save As" option. Again, a dialogue window opens and gives you
> all the same saving options: name, location, extension appendage, etc.
> This option will create a duplicate document in the selected location.
>  From this point, you have to remember what you named it and where you
> put it so you can locate it again.
> 
> End of Basic Mac lesson #17.
> 
> 
> 
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> Message: 11
> Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 14:22:06 -0500
> From: Al Poulin <alpoulin at cox.net>
> Subject: Re: [G4] Save and Save As not really working
> To: "A place to discuss Apple's G4 computers."
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> 
> On Feb 15, 2005, at 6:13 AM, Ron Steinke wrote:
> 
>> On 14 Feb, 2005, at 5:23, Richard M. Kriss wrote:
>> 
>> Can someone tell me why I cannot get documents to save in a nested
>> folder?
>> I can repeat the failure and this is disturbing in that the application
>> (that I would rather not name) says it is updated the file but it is
>> not
>> being changed.
>> 
>> You can get the document saved in any location that you chose as long
>> as you are saving it for the FIRST time and not using the "Save in
>> xxxx folder selected by the application" function. The dialogue window
>> gives you the option to select your choice of locations. All you have
>> to do is use the dialogue window functions to navigate to the selected
>> location and click on the SAVE button when you arrive where you want
>> to be.
>> 
>> The second opportunity to save to the location you desire is when you
>> use the "Save As" option. Again, a dialogue window opens and gives you
>> all the same saving options: name, location, extension appendage, etc.
>> This option will create a duplicate document in the selected location.
>> From this point, you have to remember what you named it and where you
>> put it so you can locate it again.
>> 
>> End of Basic Mac lesson #17.
> 
> Ahh...  Now that someone on this list explained to me what a "nested
> folder" is, maybe I can add something to this discussion.
> 
> Could it be, just maybe, that Richard's question and the answer
> suggested by Ron's "use the dialogue window functions" both relate to
> that little square button in the window which allows the default to be
> a little bitty window that seems ridiculous and very difficult to use.
> In my first month with OS X, I found it absolutely frustrating to use.
> Then, maybe by accident, I found that hitting the button turned the
> triangle upside down and opened the wonderfully useful and large window
> where you see your files and folders in either column view or list
> view.  Much Better!
> 
> Al Poulin
> Anger, hate, and revenge are for the devil, forgiveness is for God,
> proactive self-defense is for the rest of us.
> 
> 
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