On 20 Jun, 2005, at 15:11, Harry Freeman wrote: Yeah, that's where you would be after you got to the http://www.pioneer109.cjb.net/ page. However if you can't get to the http://www.pioneer109.cjb.net/ page, it's very unlikly that you'll be able to get to the http://www.freewebs.com/pioneer109/instructions.htm--------- Right! That's exactly what I don't need - a link that won't take me to the location you suggest to go to. Whatever was done to the link you posted, it would not work with Safari or FireFox. I kept getting the same 1/3 inch of text and had to try to scroll down the page to read it. Dennis put in a link that took me directly to the right location - Thank you, Dennis - and the page showed up in its complete form with graphics included. I have no idea why your link would not work with my G4 and do not know enough about web pages to even try to guess. I can only say that it didn't work and Dennis's link did.