Ron, Thanks for the response. Maybe I should have stated the problem, rather my guess at the solution. I have a friend who has an e-Mac (75gig, 256Megbyte, OSX3.2 - just updated to Tiger). She can't get on the net from her machine with a phone modem. It had been working and than all of sudden she couldn't on the net. Her computer seems to connect with her provider ( it states "connecting" and after a few minutes it says " connected"). However once connected, neither Outlook or Safari work. Outlook just grinds away doing nothing and Safari within a few seconds comes back with a message that indicates it can't establish a connection -- even though there is a connection to the provider. It appears like it is waiting for a password, but never asks for anything! I thought it sounded like a virus. One tech thought that there could be some Spy Ware running, redirecting the efforts of the CPU??? So there is the problem! Now perhaps you guys might have a solution? rich On Jun 21, 2005, at 2:42 PM, Ron Steinke wrote: > On 21 Jun, 2005, at 11:21, rich northouse wrote: > > Calling on the group's wisdom again -- What is the best Virus and Spy > Ware detector for a Mac? Any good free stuff? > > I'm not so sure that you really need an anti-virus program. Are you > using OS-9 or earlier? So far, I haven't heard about any virus that > can affect OS-X even though Virex keeps putting out updates to their > program. > > I know that someone will say that you should have an anti-virus > program to prevent forwarding a PC virus that you may have gotten from > a document that you received from another PC user, but that doesn't > appear to me to be such a problem. If they insist on using a machine > that is vulnerable to so much mal-ware, aren't they simply asking for > trouble? According to statements I have read, there are over 97,000 > examples of viruses (virii?), trojan horses, macros, etc, that affect > PCs and about 68 that affect Macs. With that condition, why worry > about you giving something to a PC user when he is more likely to get > it all on his own simply by using his machine on the internet? > > An experiment was done at a university in California with 8 brand new > PCs right out of the boxes. They were plugged in, turned on, and > configured for internet access. They had software installed that would > sound an alert when any attempt was made to access them from the > outside world. Operators sat down and started surfing the net, going > to different sites so there wouldn't be any duplication of visits. > Within 48 minutes, all 8 had sounded the alert. > > None of the machines were Macs, so the result from the experiment > probably cannot be used with any degree of certainty. But---it does > point out that PCs are not safe at all, even when they are brand new. > > _______________________________________________ > G4 mailing list > G4 at listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/g4 > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random > stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 >