My opinion only..... If you're just a regular end user like most of us, there is no need for any of this stuff. At least so far. What the future holds is yet to be determined. If you use .Mac, you can download Virex for free (not exactly free as you pay for .Mac), but you might also want to just turn on the firewall. 10.4 has a neat little addition to the firewall.....it's called 'stealth mode'. How good it is, I can't say. But I can say this, I've been a Mac user for 5 years now and use the net quite a bit and do quite a few online transactions. Never had a problem. Tim On Jun 21, 2005, at 2:21 PM, rich northouse wrote: > > >> _Hi Folks, >> > > Calling on the group's wisdom again -- What is the best Virus and > Spy Ware detector for a Mac? Any good free stuff? > > Rich > > > Exterminate all rational though.