What he said. FWIW, have you thought about going the extra distance and getting a Mac Mini? Smaller hard drive, no RAID, but new and fully integrated. More (or less) the same price, all new, no legacy issues. Your RAM array will only run at the speed of the slowest stick in the machine. Only benefit of faster RAM is to swap it into a newer machine later, but these listed aren't compatible to G5's. I have a 1st generation G4 450 DP that's now filled with RAM and add'l drives, but upgraded to OSX without any trouble. I put OSX on a new internal ATA drive that I made the boot disk. Pretty good price on the one you're looking at. I think our local MicroCenter had similar Samsung's on sale for a bit less recently. HTH, jon Original Message: ----------------- From: Philip J Robar philip.robar at myrealbox.com Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2005 10:35:28 -0800 To: g4 at listserver.themacintoshguy.com Subject: Re: [G4] Sawtooth, 9-X heap big trouble, part 2 <On Mar 8, 2005, at 8:25 AM, marshagrant at lycos.com wrote: Get a Mac Mini. It'll be quieter, faster and cheaper. BTW. The memory and HD can be had for much less with rebates. Phil> Original Message: ----------------- From: marshagrant at lycos.com Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2005 11:25:14 -0500 To: g4 at listserver.themacintoshguy.com Subject: Re: [G4] Sawtooth, 9-X heap big trouble, part 2 Well, sad to say, I haven't gotten very far. I'm thinking of getting the upgrades that it needs, but first I have to ask. Is this crazy? Should i just give up and recommend buying a new machine? Or do you think it can be done? I'm looking at these upgrades. 256MB PC133 CL2 2-2-2 168 Pin High Performance SDRam for PowerMac G4 AGP Models up to Dual 1GHz! $39.95 512MB PC133 CL3 168 Pin SDRam for PowerMac G4 Models 350-1GHz*, G4 Cube, iMac 350MHz to 700MHz, eMac 700MHz to 1GHz. Lifetime Warranty! *Original G4 PCI 'Yikes' models NOT included $81.99 $163.98 Total: $203.93 and 256MB PC133 CL3 168 Pin SDRam for ALL PowerMac G4 Models 350-1GHz*, G4 Cube, all iMac 350MHz to 700Mhz models, eMac 700MHz to 1GHz. Lifetime Warranty! *Original G4 PCI Graphics, aka G4' Yikes' 350-400MHz models not included. $35.50 1-PLGPF55SA10002M PowerLogix PowerForce55 G4/1GHz with 2MB L3 for PowerMac G4 AGP Graphics/Sawtooth & Gigabit Ethernet. Plug & Play, Heatsink Pre-attached. 30 Day 100% Money Back Guarantee, 2yr OWC/PowerLogix Warranty. $189.00 1- HIT14R9201 120GB Hitachi/IBM DeskStar 7K250 ATA/6 7200RPM 8.5ms 2MB Buffer. 1yr Hitachi Warranty + 2 additional years OWC Warranty. $83.95 1-SIISCMR4A12 SIIG Ultra ATA/133 DualChannel HardWare RAID PCI Interface any PowerMac. 5yr Warranty. $134.99 Sub-Total: $443.44 So that would be- 647.37 to make her new and fresh. If that dont get X on it, nothing will. Any thoughts? ~~warm waves~~ > <((((º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><((((º>¸ > <((((º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸><((((º>¸. -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ .