g4-request at listserver.themacintoshguy.com wrote on 11/12/05, 15:19: I had fits getting a new Seagate 80GB SATA to work in my G4 with several SATA cards. At first I blamed the problems on the SATA cards then found out the drive needed to be initialized in a G5 before it could be used in the G4 with a SATA card. It works great now. **************************************** I find this hard to believe i put a SATA harddrive in my B & W and i never initializes in a G5 I did initialize it in the B & W and I've had no problems with it. See below. -- Brad 55417-1734 "Pwr Mac G4 64 MB Radeon 7000 AGP Gtaphics OWC Mercury Extreme 1GHZ CPU Upgrade 1.12GB Ram 9GB Quantum Fireball/ OS 9.2.2 WDC 80GB/ OS X.3.9 Pioneer DVR 105 Pwr Mac G3 B&W 64MB Radeon 7000 PCI Graphics card 450MHZ CPU 1gb ram 120 gb Maxtor DiamondMaxPlus SATA harddrive X.3.9/80gb Hitachi Deskstar Sata harddrive X.4/ 40gb Maxtor DiamondMax ATA hard drive/9.2.2 Seritek SATA Controller card/Pioneer DVR 105 OS X.3.9/ Lexmark X1185 all- in- one printer Powerbook 3400c 200MHZ, 144MB ram, 2gig harddrive, OS 9.1, modules; floppy, cd-rom, zip drive Powerbook G3 Lombard 400mhz 6gb harddrive OS X.2.8 If it's good to you, it's good for you