Yep, insert the software restore disks that came with your computer and restart while holding down the c key. apple hardware test is found here. before you do that, have you restarted from the panther disk and repaired your disk permissions and disk from the DISK UTILITY (must startup from the CD first). You are right, it probably has nothing to do with memory. I can't read the reports either but I did have similar crash reports for some time until I replaced the memory. Might be worth a shot. I have heard of the 10.3.9 update causing quite a few problems. Try to repair the disk and disk permissions first. Let me know how it goes Cheers Jim On 11/10/2005, at 11:39 AM, John Erdman wrote: > Jim - Thanks for your suggestion. > I have a hard time believing that a serious memory problem > developed simultaneously with the software update. Up until that > time everything was working perfectly . Nevertheless I haven't a > better idea and I'm willing to try anything to avoid a reinstall. > What utility are you referring to? I can't find anything in my > system that looks like a hardware test. Is this something I need to > down load or perhaps is it on the Panther system disk? > > For now I have to start up with my Firewire HD which has the full > OS10.3.9 on it. Hope this won't make any difference to the test you > suggest. as the original CD is with my other computer 2 hours away. > > John Erdman > Sawtooth G4 AGP 400MHz, 704MB Ram, OS 10.3.9 > iMac G5 2.0 GHz, 1GB Ram, OS 10.4.2 > > On Oct 9, 2005, at 23:52, Jim McMillan wrote: > > >> I'm not so sure but the report suggests a memory issue. >> Try refitting the memory. >> then >> Try startup from the OSX cd and run Apple hardware test. >> Like I said but I'm not sure. I had similar reports and founds >> that when I replaced the memory chip all was fixed. >> GOOD LUCK >> >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > G4 mailing list > G4 at listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/g4 > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random > stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 >