[G4] New guy (rilly)

Sat Oct 29 16:12:55 PDT 2005

On Oct 28, 2005, at 8:57 PM, Daniel Brieck Jr. wrote:

> Michael,
>
> Comments are with-in the original message.
>
>
> On Oct 28, 2005, at 8:19 PM, Slip Kid wrote:
>
>> My only concerns regard adding hardware/software & the current OS.
>>
>> 1. What do I "need" to know in order to know if an app or drive  
>> or...will work.
>> (Yeah, the 20gig drive is not enogh - But, I can go "off the  
>> shelf" with a Western Digital or any third party HD?)
>>
>
> Yes any ATA hard drive will work, just avoid ones larger than 127- 
> Gig, because the internal ATA controller can only see up to 127  
> GIGs of any hard drive . If you want to use drives larger than 127- 
> Gig , you will need a PCI ATA or PCI Serial ATA controller.
    Actually  128 Gig.
>
>
>
>> Plus:
>> I have a six month old Hitachi CD-RW? [Ht-DT-ST CD-RW GCE-8483B]
>> I'd like to slde it in? I was told it would be as easy as opening  
>> the drawer, removing the faceplate and replacing the CD-ROM/DVD  
>> ROM (I'd prefer dumping the Zip?)
>>
>>
>
> Power Mac G4 (Gigabit Ethernet): Customer-Installable Parts  
> Instructions
>
> http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=75312
>
> One thing to note is that you will want to have a DVD drive to be  
> able to Install Mac os 10.4... It only comes on a DVD disk in the  
> box, but you can special order it from apple on CD's
>
> I recommend a Pioneer DVR-109 Superdrive drive, which burns them  
> all DVD+/- RW and dual layer DVDs and CD-RW.  Those drives are  
> really cheap nowadays about $43.00 and work well with os 10.4.1 or  
> later with no driver add ons or tinkering, just connect it up and  
> use it...
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16827129160R
>
>
>
>
>> 2. I'm glad it has been upgraded to 10.3.9 as I'd prefer using  
>> Toast 7.  However? I won't be receiving a disc for the OS.  A PC  
>> person never has an OS disc out of reach!  As I am the "owner" is  
>> there a way to get a copy of the OS?  It may not matter to an  
>> Apple owner - - I'd be more secure with the OS on a disc!
>>
>
> Yeah not having the OS CD is always a bad idea for any platform,  
> but especially when running Windows... Bad things can always happen.
>
>>
>> 2a.  When I add the larger HD, do you recommend I keep the 20 gig  
>> drive?  Is "age" any concern?
>> It isn't a lot of "space" I'm keeping!
>>
>
> You could always keep it as a back up, or use your new hard drive  
> as a back up. Age is always a concern for hard-drives. "Its not a  
> matter of if it will break, but when."
>
> On my G4 I have two 120 Gig drives, so I am to  full capacity in  
> terms of what the onboard ATA controller can do, but I still have  
> room for two additional drives in the case... If I ever need to add  
> more I might opt  for Serial ATA drives, which are getting cheaper.
>
>
>
>> As I always i have my OS in a partition of its own, even if the OS  
>> "stays" on the original HD I like to give it a 10 gig of space of  
>> it;s own?
>>
>>
>
> There really is no need to partition the hard drives like that  
> unless you are planning to reinstall the OS often because of  
> testing purposes, etc. Note that since it is a unix system your  
> files and program will be separate from where your os specific  
> files are stored automatically. Things will not be scatter around  
> in a hierarchy of chaos like it is on MS Windows.
>
>
>> Thanks
>>
>> [Oh, I've heard from two crowds:]
>> 1. Install Tiger, now!
>>
> Yeah, I say go for Tiger. I use to run it on a previous G4 500  
> sawtooh system with good performance, but i had a better graphics  
> card. Honestly, you don't even have a graphics card  powerful  
> powerful enough for  10.3. That card in there does not support  
> Quartz Extreme. I would look for better graphics card thats  
> supports at-least Quartz Extreme, because if i am not mistaken all  
> graphics intensive stuff , scrolling pages, moving windows get  
> mostly off loaded to the CPU of the Mac and not the graphics card  
> in the Case of the  none Quartz Extreme card...
>
> So when you get the machine  try it out for yourself and see how  
> the graphics system performs for what you are doing with it.
>
> I recommend the ATI Radeon 8500 Mac Edition AGP graphics card....
> http://www.ati.com/products/radeon8500/radeon8500me/index.html
>
> Hope this helps answer some of your concerns.
>
>
>>
>> Michael
>>
>
>
> Daniel J. Brieck Jr.
>
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