> >>Hey Group, >>I have a B&W That has a G4/500 Sonnet Upgrade i >>can't OSX to Install for nothing, >>i >>even removed the Vodoo5 card and the SCSI Card as >>well as all but bare memory for the machine. Any >>Help i can get i would be Greatful For >>Jerry >> >> > > > Notice, my screenname is changed (not the address) I wuz 'Slip Kid' - - So, let me in! I'm still new to a Mac (November '05 - - G4 GE) after a couple decades with PC's. Hey - - - I knew nuthin' - - - and can't seem to screw up. Still, I avoided OS X for months...My G4 GE only has 400MHZ ( a great eboo deal) and 16Mg Vid. (Also came wit' a 20G HD! .. ) It did have half a gig o' RAM. I added a 120G HD (& and swapped the 20Gig with spare 40 from a PC after the T. install. I figured the T would be a drag on my resources...400Mhz and 16MG o' graphics?! Nah, I wuz in no hurry as it was working better than fine. Last week I made the leap. Well, it went in (about an hour?)...I rebooted and has run like a gem for a week or so. (I used SuperduperFree a couple days ago and put the contents of Disc 0 from the original 20Gigger w/ T. to the 40Gigger...I rebooted and even though it was left on disc 1 where it was cloned from disc 0 - - - All the paths to the swapped discs [ 0<--->1 ] are fine...I left the HD's on the 'wrong channels' as all is well enough) Nah, not only did OS X go in without a hitch...if anything it's smoother than 10.3.9....(This is just for the 'Scared like me folks"...See, an idiot with an old box did it and it runs and runs better) Oh, sorrry I can't help with a clue fer ya..in the MacScene...But - - But beyond bragging - - - Well, I am kinda proud I caught on to the Mac world and can't screw anything up. I'd like a Gig+ CPU, but I only get occasional spikes (But send me a one and in bolt it in). I can lend my Win lessons, RE: Installs After dozens of Winstalls...a quck checklist for glitches: 1. Don't upgrade...either wipe the drive and start clean or at least yank the old OS. (I did not as I was not sure T. would work an didn't have the original Panther disc...I wasted some space & time...but it worked) 2. You do have a legit copy. [Not a question] It's moot to discuss probs if one isn't using a confirmed media source... 3. I've found (in the WinWorld) a boot CD/DVD is not a perfect or foolproof process. So: A. Do you have 'good luck' with boot ROMs in general? Even in Win it began as a less than foolproof process - - It's gotten better in latter years. My sense is that Macs are even more selective in the config of a boot OS? Dunno what an older Mac might mean for a boot CD? Yeah, it was a concern for me. B. How's the optical drive? [The first moments when it's looking for the critical boot sectors is the go-no go time. If it isn't kicking in then...that's yer prob...That is, if you boot and it sits, spins or seem confused...it's the drive/disc] Yeah, even if the drive is at all going to show a weakness to boot, you can use it for anything - -( But a boot ) And not notice it's a bit off. My 'original' DVDRom in the GE is hardly state of...It's not the speediest (I use an external USB20 for burning)... I did expect it to balk...&, well, I still need to try an install on the biggie drive...I'm only one for one. Yeah, I considor my original drive to be minimal. C. Before I started yanking periphs...I'd try a different disc or a differnet drive. I'm not certain 'bare-memory' is a help & if if the RAM is fine - Pulling stuff? It's only going to add another 'maybe' to your probs - - Confirm the health of the disc an optical? D. How many failures did you have before you started getting creative? As I don't follow this with a critical eye? Are you not even getting the ROM to boot? Is the failure after/during the install? If you arent getting the ROM to kick in, check #3. There's a big diff between "Can't install" and "Disc won't boot" Me...I'm Mr. Lucky. I only wish I was rich...I'm sure I'd even be happier wit' more juice in the box...but the sucker really is a joy. Michael