On 27 Jan 2006, at 12:55, Jerry wrote: Hey Glen, Tried it still no go had to remove it so i could boot off the stock card, It runs fine in OS 9.2 as well on a Stock G3/350 that has Unbntu linix on it Jerry Hello Jerry I have a G4/500 with both cards in and two 17in monitors, I only started to have problems with 10.2.8 up until then, it worked with out messing about. Have you tried the 'pram reset, or the nvram reset'. What monitor are you using?. Mine has an old IBM attached to it, and a Mitsubishi on the stock card. I cannot think what else I have done, or anything which will be of use. I know I did search for any drivers, but never found anything apart from the line of text I sent you. Have Fun Glen