One thing that might work, if you haven't already munged the system too much: Locate the object that you need to trash. Open Terminal In Terminal, after the prompt, type: su rm <drag the object in here*> *by dragging the object that you need to trash, you will avoid having to type in the full path name of the object; the system will do it for you--neat trick that I learned from somebody else here a few years ago. Hit Return, and, enter your administrator's password when asked. That ought'a do it. But, if it does not, type: man rm to get the manual description of the Remove (rm) command. You may have to add one or two parameters to it to make it work; but I don't think that you will need to do that. Be very careful using the rm command. Because once it's gone, it's gone! --Steve At 10:01 PM -0500 1/29/06, Norm wrote: >Used superduper to back up hard drive, made a disk image on the desktop. >Could not open it so trashed it. Could not empty the trash so tried to >force empty.