i think the problem is called a kernal panic? this is the kernal panic i get on the screen as follows: panic(cpu 0): unable to find driver for this platform: "powermac3,4. latest stack bactreace for cpu 0: bactrace: 0x000833b8 0x0008389c 0x0001ed8c 0x0026da4c 0x0024de04 0x0024dbdc 0x0024e658 0x0024eccc 0x0023ee84 0x0023ee48 procedding back via exception chain: exception state (sv=0x0049ac80) pc=0x00000000; msr=0x0000d030; dar=0x00000000; dsisr=0x00000000; lr=0x00000000; r1=0x00000000; xcp=0x00000000 (unknown) kernal version: darwin kernal version 7.0.0: wed sept 24 15:48:39 pdt 2003 root:xnu/xnu-517.obj~1/release_ppc then u see debugger stuff (no debugger configured) the exception chain repeats what do i do now? --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/g4/attachments/20060706/f7edbabf/attachment.html