Okay, I got my Dual 867 last week, and it's a real peach. No surprise there. But sure enough, it didn't have an internal modem. I knew that was a possibility, and that I'd have to find a way to deal with it. So, the modem out of my old iMac is a v.90, and despite the phone jack being mounted directly on the card, it has the same part number as the ones sold for the older G4 PowerMacs. Now, the MDDs "officially" ship with the (optional) v.92, but I had seen vendors offering v.90s for all G4 PMs -- all the same. Hmmm... So, with a little modification, mine should work, right? Well, I set to work, carefully removing the phone jack from the modem (remind me to get some Chemwik - grumble), since it won't fit on the logic board that way. I cut two 12" lengths of sheilded wire, double-looped them through one of those ferrite-cylinder inductors ("filter") like they put on monitor cables, soldered up the ends to the modem and the jack, grounded the wires' sheilding to the modem's mounting screw), and sort of wedged the jack temporarily in one of the PCI-card openings to test it. Fired it up. Yes. It works. Beautifully. Better than it did in the iMac. Heh. Sooner or later, I'll redo the wiring, put a connector on the modem card, and give it a properly mounted phone jack. But in case anyone cares -- yes, you CAN install and iMac modem in an MDD, and then use it to tell the world! :-) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com