On 14-10-2006 22:35, Till Wimmer, g4-lisz at tonarchiv.ch, wrote: > I'm not sure about this... but i think that the old QS had the older > 133MHz SD RAM type, and the 2002 one have the newer DDR-RAM type (167MHz > bus) with more pins. Have a look at the RAM slots. If they have 168pins, > then IMHO it's an old QS. I don't agree. The QS and the QS 2002 have the same RAM. IMHO the easiest way to find out whether or not it's QS 2002 is to find the serial number. On a running Mac with OS 10.x.x in System Profiler. A lot of Macs have a sticker with the serial number on. I have several Macs with that sticker on the bottom. Having found your Serial Number goto: <http://www.chipmunk.nl/klantenservice/applemodel.html> Type your Serial Number (Don't worry, page is in Dutch and English!), click "Show the information" and ooeeeppppppsssss you go!! Example: I type in the SN of my QS 2002/800 : CK212H15MJP and get following: Serial number: CK212H15MJP Name: Power Macintosh G4 (Quicksilver 2002) Model: M8705 PowerMac G4 800MHz Drive=CD-RW Bus speed: 133MHz Factory: CK (Cork, Ireland) URL: Technical specifications by apple-history.com code_to_number: H15 - Model introduced: 2002 Production year: 2002 Production week: 12 (March) Production number: 19691 (within this week) HTH, Jo Hissel