Okay to confirm, i have started a discussion on this before and didn't answer a lot of questions so i will clarify everything now and hope someone can give me a cheap easy way to solve this problem. Right this is the Mac i bought second hand from Ebay: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=005&item=150023013191&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWN%3AIT&rd=1 Pretty much no question about it, I got scammed. All information on the ebay article is true, except the statement about the Mac working. YEs it does start up, but it doesn't get any further. I reach the screen where there's nothing but a flashing question mark. I've tried to find some help on apples site, but still can't get it working. As the Ebay article says, the specs are: - G4 - 450MHz- 40GB Hard Drive- 256MB Ram- DVD One of the quesiton i recieved last time was "is the hard drive actually present". I can confirm it is. I'm guessing the issues surrounds the question "Is an OS installed?" Is there any way i can check this? I read on apples site that holding down the option(?) key loads up a screen where you can choose the start up volume or something. I did this but see only circular arrow thing and left arrow. The left arrow does nothing and clicking the circular arrow thing leads to the comupter displaying a load sign instead of mouse pointer then just doing nothing. Any ideas? P.S. i bought seperately a G4 keyboard and mouse so that is not the issue. PPS. Does anyone have a spare OS9 start up / recovery disk or could they make me a copy of or just...i don't know lend or give me ANY kinds of disk that will make this damned Mac work. I only bought it as a secondary computer for music recording with a Digi 001 interfeace damnit! _________________________________________________________________ Live Search: New search found http://get.live.com/search/overview -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/g4/attachments/20070203/134f327c/attachment-0001.html