Thanks you, compadres- Do you know of a way to find out what firmware I already have (it does not appear to be in system profiler)? When I started the update, it started to run classic 9.2, and, on closer perusal of the 4.2.8 rules I realize it said for G4's with 9.1 or higher, BUT NOT X, and I already have OSX, 10.2.8. Perhaps I already have this level of firmware? All useful ideas are welcome, Thanks again, Marla mitchnickpictures at yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com