On 10 Jul, 2007, at 12:54 PM, John Niven wrote: > Well that would be great if I could get two drives in > my G4. Why be restrained to the G4 case? You could install any compatible drive in an external FW/USB case and it would not be affected by the "5 Play" rule. I have been using a Pioneer 109 for over three years like that. I often get DVDs from my service kids in Japan and once in a while from friends in Germany. They all play perfectly in the Pioneer. I just have to remember not to play those specific DVDs in my Mac player.