Man, that's a rotten thing to have start up. Did the shop you took it to try different RAM? Certainly it's either there or on the board some place, considering it happens from a different drive with a different system installation. One other thought is some failure in the cooling? I could imagine a kernel panic coming up if something overheats. Maybe a thorogh cleaning with canned air would do the trick. As for kernel panic data, the lead I've found is at http://www.index- site.com/kernelpanic.html "I would also look at the Panic.log file with the Console program on your machine to see what may have caused the kernel panic if you get one. " Eric W. Am 09.04.2009 um 16:16 schrieb Eric Smith: > My iBook G4 has started experiencing regular kernel panics. > My immediate question is how can I get the actual kernel > panic message to display, rather than the generic message > ("You must restart your computer ...") ? > It's a long shot but maybe there's some clue in there > I could decipher. > > Background: this started happening out of the blue. > Once it started, it would either happen during the boot, > or if it did boot all the way up it would happen as soon > as I tried to log in. I was able to boot from the install > CD without any problems and run Disk Utility, repair the > filesystem and repair permissions (but no significant > problems were seen). After doing this it would run for > a longer period of time after booting, but after about > 15-20 minutes of operation it would panic again, and > then start panicking on every boot again. > > I took it to my authorized Apple repair shop (and they're > good; I've used them for years on different systems). > They ran all their HW diagnostics and found nothing > (I have never opened it and added RAM or anything else), > and wiped the disk clean and reinstalled. They also tried > different kb/mouse, running off an external drive, etc. > The result: still random panics, although they claim the > panics are less frequent now. At that point they gave up. > > So I'm not sure what to do next. Live with a system that > panics at random intervals and hope it doesn't get worse, > or declare it a total loss? I don't expect that taking it > to Apple will be of any use because they will probably just > want to replace the logic board at a prohibitive cost. > All I'm thinking is that if I can gather some more data on > the actual panics there might be some hope. > > Thanks, > Eric S. > _______________________________________________ > G4 mailing list > G4 at listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/g4