I'll say it again - You might want to try the Open Firmware resets. It's quick, simple, and resolves many flaky problems. I always start with them when I begin having trouble. Shut down the computer. Start it up again and immediately after the chime, press and hold the Option, Command, letter "O" and letter "F" keys simultaneously until a message appears telling you to release them. (The machine is now booted into Open Firmware). Then type the following lines exactly and press the return key: reset-nvram (hit the return key) set-defaults (return) reset-all (return) The Mac will restart and should boot normally. If you still have problems, it may be time for a PMU reset. This link will walk you through it. http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1939 If you want more background info, do a google search for "apple PMU reset" which will bring up a plethora of links. Dan T On Apr 15, 2009, at 4:00 PM, Jill Lee-Jones wrote: > Hello all, > > I have had an ongoing problem with my G4 Sawtooth 450 AGP freezing > randomly. Sometimes it will run for days just fine, then all of > sudden one day I cannot even open a snip snip