Greetings Aaron ( + )!( + ) You are correct, it's been such a long since I installed the second drive in my G4 that I had forgotten which drive went in which location. So I opened my case and verified that the bottom drive is the drive that is "Drive 0" and that it is on the end of the cable. Then I checked my data base and here is what I found - it was taken from the manual that accompanied the NEW "Powermac G4 AGP Graphics" platform that I purchased in 1999 When I purchased the Mac the only drive was the one on the bottom and I'm not sure if it was on the end of the cable or on the middle connector. ---------------------------------------------------- Ultra ATA Drives Your Macintosh can accommodate two internal ATA drives in the U-shaped drive carrier in drive position 3 at the bottom of the computer. If you purchased a model with one Ultra ATA drive, it sits in the lower portion of this U-shaped drive carrier. You can install a second ATA drive in the upper part of the carrier. The drive that came with your Macintosh is designated the primary drive (sometimes called the “master drive” or “drive 0”). Therefore, an additional Ultra ATA drive must be configured as the secondary drive (sometimes called the “slave drive” or “drive 1”). For more information on configuring an additional drive, see the documentation that came with it. Your Macintosh will not work with Ultra ATA drives set for “cable select mode.” * This surely was surprise to me! I assume that ATA drive will operate in the cable select mode but not Ultra! ---------------------------------------------------- If you added a second ATA drive to a computer that came with one ATA drive, plug the connector on the end of the ribbon cable to the drive on the bottom and attach the cable’s middle connector to the top drive. ---------------------------------------------------- On Feb 17, 2009, at 4:01 AM, Aaron wrote: > It's always good to keep tabs on the SMART status of the internal > drive(s). > > At 16:54 -0800 2009/02/15, gifutiger wrote: >> I concede, if there isn't a Cable Select jumper on the drive then >> they >> should be jumped as Master/Slave. However with the cable that is >> provide with the G4 the Master drive will still be the one that is >> closest to the Disk Controller. > > Either you're wrong or the G4 you're referring to is entirely non- > standard! Normally, the drive at the end of the cable is the Master, > and if there's only one drive on the cable, it must be set to Master > or Cable Select and should (MUST if using Cable Select) be at the > end. However, if neither drive is using Cable Select, it MAY be OK > to put the master in the middle and the Slave at the end. > > - Aaron > _______________________________________________