Browsing the forums, I see so many folks with iMac problems it reminds me of the old Performas. Those pieces of junk that converted a lot of folk to PeeSees and closed their minds to Macs FOREVER. My youngest son is one of them. When first saw the "Computers on a knob", i.e., iMacs WITH NO FAN, it was "No way Jose" for this ole curmudgeon. RHB On Feb 19, 2009, at 6:34 PM, Eric Smith wrote: > Agreed, at the top of the line there's no comparison. > But at the middle of the line it's a different story. > For a headless Mac there's nothing between the Mac Pro > and the mini, nothing at all that compares to the > affordability and expandability that the G4s used to > provide. I wouldn't go to an iMac because of the > integrated display and inability to make upgrades, > and as I said it's mostly laptop parts anyway. > Apple could make a decent midrange system but they > choose not to. > > Eric > > Frank Sudore wrote: >> There is no comparison between the intel & PPC. I have a Macpro >> Tower and it blows a Quadcore G5 i sold away. Especially with >> Photoshop & Cinema 4d. >> Mac made the right move to go to intel although I would of like to >> have seen what AMD would of done for them. >> On Feb 19, 2009, at 8:52 PM, Eric Smith wrote: >>> Aaron wrote: >>> >>>> Aside from having built-in SATA and USB 2.0, are there any >>>> advantages to G5's over G4's, other than that they were made in >>>> (at least nominally) much faster versions? >>> >>> Several things made them faster, of course. Higher CPU clock speeds, >>> faster memory, processors designed for SMP from the ground up, >>> Hypertransport on the motherboard. In the later versions you can >>> get dual-core CPUs, meaning you can have 4 cores in the system. >>> PCI-X slots instead of PCI in the early models, while the later >>> models go all the way to PCI-Express. >>> >>>> Also, aside from running Windoze natively, is there any >>>> advantage to an Intel Mac over a PowerPC Mac? >>> >>> Faster, of course; generally much faster. Intel CPUs do better >>> with heat than PPCs, meaning laptops run cooler (the inability >>> to produce a Powerbook G5 is rumored to be a main reason for the >>> switch - although I think there were other more important reasons). >>> Dual-core CPUs are now standard for Intel Macs. >>> Leopard is the last OS version that will run on PPC systems. >>> >>> On the other hand I think the Intel Macs are not as well built as >>> the PPC systems were, and they are nowhere near as upgradable. >>> iMacs in particular - the current ones contain almost all laptop >>> parts. >>> And you lose Classic mode, unless you want to try a hack like >>> Sheepshaver. >>> >>> Eric >>> _______________________________________________ >>> G4 mailing list >>> G4 at listserver.themacintoshguy.com >>> http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/g4 >> _______________________________________________ >> G4 mailing list >> G4 at listserver.themacintoshguy.com >> http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/g4 > _______________________________________________ > G4 mailing list > G4 at listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/g4