Thanks for that info ... I've had my head down tending to my own little problems and haven't been keeping up with the Mac Scene. Went to a site and they're talking Darwin Port and other stuff I'd never heard of before. It'll take me hours to get abreast of all this with them using terms such asgqlplus, SQL*Plus. In Mac Rumors I stumbled onto Installing Oracle data base on a Mac http://www.oracle.com/technology/pub/articles/rohrer_macosx_10g.html and MacPorts ? http://www.macports.org/ Darwin Ports ??? This site explains the history and why some of the folks are getting their shorts in a knot over who owns it. http://trac.macports.org/wiki/DarwinPorts . Shoot Bang, I was leery of trying to flash a Video card. These kids are trying stuff that would make my wallet cringe ... afraid of Zapping something expensive. I was told by a reseller in San Diego that Leopard slows down G4's except for the eMac. I have an eMac 1.25 MHz ? running leopard and it's pretty quick. RHB On Jan 5, 2009, at 8:51 PM, Robert A. Rosenberg wrote: > At 14:44 -0800 on 01/05/2009, Robert H. Baucom wrote about Re: [G4] > LEOPARD WARNING: > >> I know of some very Mac Astute persons that have retained OS10.3.9 >> so that they can run their (what was then) Terribly Expensive Apps on >> OS9.2.2. > > 10.4.11 will run OS9.2.2 (Classic) Programs. It is only when you go > to 10.5.0 that you lose this ability. > _______________________________________________ > G4 mailing list > G4 at listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/g4