At 05:09 PM 3/5/2003 -0500, you wrote: >Here is the link to download CarbonLib 1.3.1, which can run on OS 8.1: > ><http://download.info.apple.com/Apple_Support_Area/Apple_Software_Updates/E >nglish-North_American/Macintosh/System/Other_System/CarbonLib_1.3.1.smi.bin> OK, tried that. Dropped it in my System Folder, but I still get the same error message (even after reboot) I ended up with two files of the same name, only one was .bin and the other was .smi. I suspect I toss one in the trash. Which one and what next? Maybe I need to put the file in another folder like extensions, app. support or something??? Thanks for your help. jack in Portland Oregon