At 11:45 PM 3/5/2003 +0100, you wrote: >bin and smi are compressed files you need to decompress them with >Aladdin expander Ah, OK did that. It made a installer file. It tried to install, but said I needed 8.6 for it to work. Can you find me a link for this file that will work for 8.1? You are the magic man! jack in Portland Oregon