On Nov 9, 2003, at 10:09 PM, Jack Honeycutt wrote: > I agree. > > But if you are running some 3rd party Firewire cards, Panther breaks > them. I don' know if a patch is available or not. I don't think the > firewire issue effects built in Apple firewire, but i am not sure > about that. > > jack > > Yeah I haven't had any problems with built-in FireWire on Panther. Also there are the widely reported external FireWire drive firmware problems. However, I have an external FireWire drive that has the firmware that is supposedly affected and I don't have a problem, and I can't even get the new firmware, which is supposed to fix the potential problems, to work. Thom, you may want to wait until 10.3.1 to upgrade, as there are a few issues and that probably be available very soon. If you wait too long, though, you won't be able to get the $20 upgrade (you only have until Dec. 17th I believe). Adam > > >> Adam >> >> >> >> On Nov 8, 2003, at 7:08 PM, Thom Holland wrote: >> >>> Hi Jack, >>> >>> Jack Honeycutt wrote: >>> >>>> Are you saying that you can not boot to the CD? >>> >>> That's right. I should have stated this earlier. Here is what I >>> have: >>> >>> Mirrored door, dual 1.0Ghz Power Mac >>> 512Mb >>> Jaguar (10.2.8) >>> Superdrive >>> 20" Cinema display >>> >>> To recap, I had powered it on for the first time yesterday. It >>> booted just fine. It's amazing how fast it runs. Everything I >>> opened was super fast. I loved it. Then I did a Software Update. >>> That seemed to go great. A short time later, it froze. Rock solid. >>> Nothing worked. I held down the power button to power it off. >>> After that, nothing worked. >>> >>> I tried powering it with the 'option' key held down. That brought >>> it to sometype of base start up. I was able to open the Superdrive >>> and insert the boot disk. Up comes the icon for the CD. All is >>> great up to now. I select the disk and click on the 'Next' arrow, >>> and then the screen goes white with the Apple logo and a spinning >>> disk. And there it sat for at least 20 minutes. Nothing else >>> happens until I power it down. >>> >>> It is now at an authorized Apple repair shop. :( >>> >>> I was so looking forward to using it and the 20" display tonight. >>> >>> In one of the discussion groups, I read that there could be a >>> problem with incompatibilities between firmware level and software >>> level. I find that hard to believe and I am sure that Apple would >>> have had sometype of check for that before doing a software upgrade. >>> >>> >>> >>>> Are you running Jaguar? 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