I was having a "freeze" problem on my G4 / Panther (mentioned here before). The "unplug USB devices" trick seems to be working for me as well (as well as repairing permissions). I think it was my ZIP drive that was the culprit. Now I just plug it in when I need it. james _________________________________________________________________ Check out MSN PC Safety & Security to help ensure your PC is protected and safe. http://specials.msn.com/msn/security.asp