Here ya go... slide transfer adapter (for video camera) http://shop.store.yahoo.com/ador/cafp100.html On Monday, December 23, 2002, at 08:57 PM, Mark M. Florida wrote: > one more thought... if you go the digital still camera route, I > believe you can get a slide-transfer adapter that just clips onto the > front of the lens (of course the camera would need good macro > abilities). You'd just need a good light source to illuminate it. > > On Monday, December 23, 2002, at 08:52 PM, Mark M. Florida wrote: > >> I would suggest (and yes, it involves a possible equipment purchase) >> to just use a digital still camera. If you only need enough res for >> video, then shoot at a lower resolution (give yourself a little extra >> room, though -- don't go under 800x600 for video use). The color >> range of most digital cameras is close to the "legal" video >> color/contrast range, so that shouldn't be a problem -- if anything, >> just create a Photoshop action to batch process your images to >> squeeze the colors into the "legal" video spectrum. Another possible >> advantage of using a digital still camera is: if you shoot at a >> higher resolution, then you will have a better looking copy in case >> you want to use these images for something else in the future. Oh... >> one more thing... if you use iPhoto to import from the still camera, >> then you have a visual reference for selecting the slides, and you >> can (fairly) easily export to video by just making a new "Photo >> Album" of the pictures you want to use, and then exporting to video >> from there. >> >> (I guess you left out what system you have, what kind of camera you >> have, etc. -- important info for figuring out the best way to do >> something with what you already have) >> >> Also, you might want to look into getting an old A/V Mac -- like a >> 7100 or 8100 with an A/V card (or even a 7500, 7600 or 8500). You >> could connect your camera's analog outputs to the analog inputs on >> the A/V card and use the built-in "Video Player" app to capture still >> frames -- it automatically saves them in a sequentially numbered >> sequence -- super convenient! >> >> The last option involves a possible software purchase. Premiere has >> a "Time Tapse" function that you can use either automatically or >> manually. So you could record your slideshow to video as you >> described, then use the "Time Lapse" feature to manually capture the >> clip every time it changes (click a button with your mouse). You >> could use this feature with any version of Premiere from 4.0 on up to >> 6.0 (don't know about 6.5 though), and you could use it with an old >> A/V Mac (Premiere 4-5), or any FireWire Mac (Premiere 6)... So maybe >> just a couple hundred dollars (at the absolute most) to set up an old >> A/V Mac with an old version of Premiere. >> >> I wouldn't sweat it trying to come up with some crazy software to >> visually analyze the video (unless you do this kind of programming >> already). And if you do create something like this, I'm sure you'll >> have a decent market with some folks on this here e-mail list. >> >> So... to sum up your choices: >> >> 1. Use a digital camera (or even something like Sony's video cameras >> with the Memory Stick slot -- I have one and it works fine for >> capturing video stills) >> >> 2. Get an old A/V Mac and use the built-in (clunky) capture software >> to grab stills from your existing video camera. >> >> 3. Get Adobe Premiere 6.x and use the "Time Lapse" feature on any >> FireWire Mac >> >> 4. Get Adobe Premiere 4.x (or 5.x) and use the "Time Lapse" feature >> on any older A/V Mac (with analog video inputs) >> >> 5. Write a video analyzer app that will extract stills when a scene >> changes? (and sell as shareware maybe?) >> >> Just some thoughts. >> >> Hope that helps. >> >> - Mark >> >> >> On Monday, December 23, 2002, at 05:28 PM, Randy Wilson wrote: >> >>> I'm wondering if anyone knows how to take a DV stream and >>> automatically >>> extract the individual frames out of it as JPEGs? >>> >>> Better yet, are there any libraries out there that give you access to >>> the actual frames in a DV stream? >>> >>> What I want to do is organize a large (>20,000) set of slides. I >>> thought I could run a DV camcorder while I rifle through the slides >>> (about 2 seconds per slide). Then I could write a little bit of >>> code to >>> examine each frame of the DV stream (either directly, or look at the >>> pictures extracted from it) in order to determine how bright it is. >>> By >>> looking at the brightness level as the frames move along, there will >>> be >>> an area of relative darkness, followed by a transition to lightness >>> (with perhaps some adjustment going on as the auto exposure does its >>> thing), then sudden darkness again. This would appear, if plotted >>> out, >>> as a series of flat plateous and flat valleys with some >>> overcorrective >>> transitions between them, along with a bit of noise, of course. >>> With a >>> few constraints on how fast/slow the slides are allowed to be pushed >>> through, it should be possible to find the point a few frames before >>> each transition begins. Then that frame could be snipped out as its >>> own >>> .jpeg file and eventually labeled in such a way as to make it >>> possible >>> to find the original slide again (or at least know that it's "about >>> slide 25" in a particular row in a particular box) when a >>> high-quality >>> scan is needed of it. >>> >>> What I'd REALLY like, of course, is a slide scanner that was actually >>> fast [like 3 seconds per slide] with a large slide feeder (like 150+ >>> slides at once), but alas, no such luck. >>> >>> In the short term, I want to make a nice 1-hour video featuring a lot >>> of slides from this collection (maybe 1000). But I'd like to have a >>> quick scan available to select which ones I want to use. But the >>> quality of the quick scans--while if displayed on a video >>> directly--would be too blocky for any sort of smooth zooming/panning >>> shots. >>> >>> Also, is there a format for saving individual miniDV frames in that >>> would avoid further compression? The frames are already pretty >>> heavily >>> compressed. They could be saved as TIFF, of course, but if I wanted >>> to >>> save individual frames out and then use them later as still clips in >>> iMovie, for example, is there a particular format that would avoid >>> decompression/recompression? Just wondering. >>> >>> Wow. That's a lot of questions. >>> >>> ---------- >>> <http://www.themacintoshguy.com/lists/MacDV.html>. >>> Send a message to <MacDV-DIGEST at themacintoshguy.com> to switch to >>> the digest version. >>> >>> XRouter | Share your DSL or cable modem between multiple computers! >>> Dr. Bott | Now $139.99 <http://www.drbott.com/prod/xrouter.html> >>> >>> Cyberian | Support this list when you buy at Outpost.com! >>> Outpost | http://www.themacintoshguy.com/outpost.shtml >>> >>> MacResQ Specials: LaCie SCSI CDR From $99! PowerBook 3400/200 Only >>> $879! >>> Norton AntiVirus 6 Only $19! 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