>And I'm using PageMaker 6.5. I'm seriously considering upgrading >to InDesign, but I'm not sure what sort of win that will be for me. >I'm using PageMaker and Illustrator a bit more than I used to >because I'm using them to design menu screens for DVD Studio Pro >but I'm not sure I really want to spend $$$'s for upgraded software >when the old stuff still does the job. Thoughts? You will LOVE ID. I am so glad I kicked the PM6.5 habit, although I was an early adopter and had to twist my printer's arm to let me do jobs with it. He came around though. About the only things that aren't Pagemaker-ish in InDesign are the two object selection tools (one to say, move a frame, the other to move a cropped graphic around inside the frame), and also that you have different keys to hold when resizing graphics with the selection tool. Adobe's upgrade system is very fair, unlike another company that starts with a Q, and I've never felt I didn't get my money's worth out of an Adobe upgrade product. What bugs are in Illustrator 10? I've not found anything wrong with it, although I'm not a power user, only occasionally edit pictures and import them to other programs. -- ________________________________ J-LIST http://www.jlist.com A treasure chest of unique things from Japan. Hentai manga, underground comics, DVDs and hentai products, funny Japanese kanji T-shirts. You've got a friend in Japan. Interested in my life in Japan? See the Peter Payne homepage at http://www.peterpayne.net/