Well... yeah, but remember we are talking about "movies" and the aspect ratio thing is completely different in what is essentially a film media. All of this is essentially based (at some point) on a typical MOVIE screen. Traditionally 16:9 (a cropped 35mm frame - those that understand this well, correct me if I'm wrong) So once things expand beyond that primary assumption everything gets confusing. Crossing over between traditional movies screens, widescreen, television screen, computer screen etc just muddles the issue. To the best of my knowledge all of this stuff is based on the 35mm movie format and then extrapolated for TV, computers etc. If you look at most design programs they still give you an opportunity to specify Picas and points. That is a hang over from an old system of measurement used for typography. I don't know anyone that really works in picas anymore. Anyway my point is this; due to an increasing amount of delivery devices, the relationship between actual size and the actual area of creation and that of the final display (and how it is specified) have become much more complicated. If one assumes that the final version will be displayed on (the worst case scenario) like a "studio monitor" they are essentially "safe" for all possible scenarios. >>> I am not sure what you are seeing but whether you use iMovie or >>> Final Cut or whatever you are always going to see more of the edges >>> on the program screen than on the TV. >>> Always. >>> That is why they provide the title box indicators in the first >>> place.. >> I guess what I'm wondering, is why does iDVD even pretend that the >> data outside the TV safe box might be visible? Why not just show >> only the TV safe area, since people mainly watch DVDs on TVs, right? > Because the amount that gets cropped off is different on every TV. > Some newer TVs show almost the entire image. Some older TVs might even > cut off some of the "safe" area. And some people watch DVDs on computers, or rear projection TVs, or in home theater overhead projectors... or some people are creating things that (they hope) might at some point get bumped to film and shown in an actual projector in an actual "theatre".... ________________ Matthew Guemple Art Director/03 mo.og at verizon.net 646.734.6601 www.gridd.com http://www.creativehotlist.com/ index.asp?linkTarget=fullProfile.asp&indID=19599