Yes it's true usually 2 maybe three top then it's junk. My complaint/concern was/is only that apple just went though a major change that ended up expensive for most of us and the idea of yet another is somewhat annoying. I know a lot of people that want to get new machines, but now that Apple is not including "classic" support they are holding off because they are hesitant to buy a nice new machine and then HAVE to buy nice new software to go with it... "makes me wanna holler, throw up both of my hands..." I will probably never own a PC. Oh who am I kidding, I'll keep ponying up the cash and loving it. Think different, think sucker... M ________________ Matthew Guemple Art Director/03 mo.og at verizon.net 646.734.6601 www.gridd.com http://www.creativehotlist.com/ index.asp?linkTarget=fullProfile.asp&indID=19599