easy big fella! I didn't mean to be cynical. I don't think Apple is part of the Axis of Evil or Microsoftian in anyway. They are just clawing for market share. I understand that, and because it's good and elegant etc I'm still willing to pay like hell for the priviledge. If only they had more games... =) What is all this about newer macs not shipping with classic and various people having to find all these weird workarounds? Maybe I'm just confused by the diff tween Native and classic. All I'm saying is that for whatever reason the transitions at Apple are always bumpy and buggy and take a long time for the OS and the software to get caught up and straightened out. I've always thought think different meant smarter... like not releasing something till it's ready. By the time I got things installed and smoothed out 10.1... a week later there was a major upgrade. That wasted my time and that ticked me off. I guess it's the perfect world thing... it seems to me it used to be less painful. I could go on and on about how the last round of changes has caused me hassles (mainly because the bulk of my work is publishing and quark has not caught up, and I don't think indesign is as good or simple or something... I'm sure that will start a flame fest...) Of course on the flip side, I am still blown away that after my initial "WTF?!" and having to tear down my HD and reinstall/partition a couple of times. I HAVE NEVER HAD A CRASH! Who would have believed that statement under anything since 7.5? My sucker comment only mean that we pay through the nose, while PC folks don't. That's all. It's like being a member of the "really expensive" computer club... thats all. And sometimes it ticks me off. It just makes me feel like a junkie with ever purer stuff being dangle in my face... I'm hooked. They know it, I know it but rehab in this case might as well be moving off the grid. PC isn't a satisfactory alternative... I fully understand innovation and progress and all that... I guess my complaint lies more with the introduction of new architecture fundamentally changing the way a thing works thus requiring increasingly expensive upgrades... Don't get me wrong I'll be one of those fools easily parted with their money standing in line, being pissed that they missed their ship date... AND as I always say to PC folks when asked... "from my cold dead hands!" Anyway sorry for the OT rant. Yeah I guess it's a bad money year, and as always I want the new thing... NOW! harrrrrrrrr ________________ Matthew Guemple Art Director/03 mo.og at verizon.net 646.734.6601 www.gridd.com http://www.creativehotlist.com/ index.asp?linkTarget=fullProfile.asp&indID=19599