On Dec 31, 2003, at 11:02 AM, Mark M. Florida wrote: > It's certainly true that modern drive and OS technology lessens the > need for defragging, but that's for what would be considered "normal" > usage like e-mail, word processing, and even editing small images. Neither the kernel, nor the disk i/o subsystem has any idea what applications are being run. They just see a stream of I/O requests. Most applications are i/o bound (video encoding is an exception, but video encoding is not a real time constrained operation), so most applications look the same to the OS and i/o subsystem. I.e. disk i/o requests come in asynchronously, and are serviced asynchronously. You don't and can't know how the blocks are laid out on physical disk. You can't know it because that information doesn't leave the disk controller. The controller maintains a fiction of putting the blocks where you ask, but it actually puts the blocks wherever it wants to. (And the algorithms that the controller uses in its attempts to optimize logical block placement are highly guarded secrets, too). The nice GUI maps can only show you the fiction, not the physical on-platter reality. For that reason alone, rearranging disk blocks to make the map look pretty, does nothing for performance. On top of that, you have all the buffering and cacheing done by the kernel I/O subsystem. And on top of that, you have unrelated disk accesses done by the OS, such as swap, tempfs, journalling, and i/o for other processes. These are going to put the disk heads wherever they want, and attempts to make files contiguously allocated therefore yield insignificant performance improvements except possibly under pathological conditions. A separate drive for video is a good idea, but because of dedicated performance, not because of fragmentation. If you're a true believer in defragmentation then putting your video on a separate partition on the same drive is a terrible idea - it guarantees that all other references to disk will reposition the heads. There's a good layman's intro to modern disk technology at http://www.acmqueue.org/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=46 But, hey, prove me wrong, show me some data that supports claims that disk defragmentation improves application performance in MacOS 10.3 Tell me how I can reproduce this alleged performance drop on one of my own systems. Peter