[MacDV] Re: imovie 3 and VCD

[Thubten Kunga]

I want to thank Gordon and Mark for giving me so much of their time 
tonight. I think Mark was the one with the real solution and then I 
sort of faked it. I was greatly helped by having 3 Macs within about 5 
feet of me. One worked to begin with. So had had a serious cheat sheet. 
Mark was right about the bogus "Toast Video CD" files. I deleted a ton 
of them. They were all over the place. Almost 30. What a mess. Backups 
of my backups with spare backups just in case I lost my backups. ; ^ ). 
You'd think I didn't have original CD-ROMs. Duh! So after deleting all 
those random files, I just reinstalled upon 5.1.4 again and the result 
is that the "Movie to Toast Video CD" export option works without the 
timed out stop block.

It turns out that Apple has that capability built in iMovie 3 now. And 
there is a replicable BUG in the WHERE dialog box that just precedes 
the rendering. This is where 3 Macs come in extra handy. White December 
2001 700 MHz Snow iMac CRT, 1999 B&W 450 MHz G3 PM, and 500 MHz G4 
Cube. All three in at that WHERE dialog box exhibit a phantom graphics 
interruption in the iMovie 3 window to the upper left of the WHERE box 
as you drag the bottom horizontal bar left and right. Doing WHERE is 
not really fully possible now. I would say we have to do where we 
remember and then afterwards move the file where we really wanted it to 
go. It's not clear who's fault this is. But off the top of my head I 
would guess a little of both Roxio and Apple.

Anyway, my trial is over and thanks again. All 3 Macs can now perform 
"Movie to Toast Video CD" with automatic Toast launch afterwards and on 
to a VCD burn session. Hope anyone else who runs into this problem will 
remember Gordon and Mark's solutions.

Thank you one and all. I love it when a plan comes together. ; ^ )

k

On Sunday, February 2, 2003, at 10:14  PM, Mark M. Florida wrote:

> If Toast 5.1.2 works with your hardware, just stick with that.  It 
> looks like (from their website) that there were some improvements to 
> the Toast Titanium 5.2 VCD extensions, but if the 5.1.2 version works 
> for what you need to do, then just stick with that.  I've been using 
> 5.1.2 ever since that update came out (that's when some newer VCD 
> extensions were introduced) with no problems.  As long as your burner 
> is supported by the version of Toast you are using, then that's where 
> you want to be.
>
> Also, just checking Roxio's site... This is weird... from the version 
> history page for Toast, under the 5.1.2 update changes:  "Toast Video 
> CD Support 1.4 also corrects an issue with the previous version, which 
> inadvertently expired on January 31st 2002".  So it looks like this 
> should have been fixed with the 5.1.2 update.  Hmmm...  I dunno...
>
> Maybe try deleting all of the VCD stuff before running the update?  Do 
> a search for "ToastVideoCD" (without spaces) and then "Toast Video CD" 
> (with spaces) to track down all of the VCD files.  Maybe use DropStuff 
> to "Stuff" the old versions, then delete the original files, then run 
> the update.  The updater just looks for a current, registered version 
> of the Toast application, and will then copy the necessary system 
> files and plug-ins where they need to go, usually replacing what's 
> already there.  But if it missed a file for whatever reason (stupid 
> permissions problems, maybe?), then that could cause a problem...
>
> Yeah, try that...
>
> - Mark
>
> On Sunday, February 2, 2003, at 11:43 PM, Thubten Kunga wrote:
>
>> Over on an iMac I am sitting for a friend who's moving, I did a new 
>> first time install of 5.1.2 from the Toast CD and the VCD to toast 
>> export capability worked in iMovie 3. When I ran a new downloaded 
>> from Roxio today 5.2 installer Version 7.4 dated 9.26.02 at 6:05 PM 
>> the export failed because of the expired file. I now believe that 
>> Roxio may have the wrong updater on their website because Toast had 
>> never been installed on that iMac before.
>>
>> Does anyone know where that expired file is located?
>>
>> k
>>
>> On Sunday, February 2, 2003, at 09:31  PM, Gordon B. Alley wrote:
>>
>>> Kunga--
>>>
>>> I removed all Toast stuff I could find, ran the Toast 5.0 installer 
>>> in Classic (that one didn't run in OS X), then ran the new 5.2 
>>> updater I had just downloaded. That fixed Toast  for me, so I didn't 
>>> get the "expired" message anymore.
>>>
>>> However, I still didn't have the direct-to-Toast VCD export 
>>> capability in iMovie 2 before I upgraded to iMovie 3. To make my 
>>> VCD, I exported my movie as QuickTime (best quality, largest size), 
>>> then dragged that into Toast's VCD window. Hopefully, when Roxio 
>>> gets the iMovie 3 export stuff working, I'll get that functionality 
>>> working.
>>>
>>> --Gordon
>>>
>>> On Sun, 2 Feb 2003 18:21:46 -0800, Thubten Kunga 
>>> <Kunga at FutureMedia.org> wrote:
>>>> Yes I thought of you Gordon when it first happened. I remember your
>>>> date problem. I have the right updater. Did you just rerun it on 
>>>> top of
>>>> the old install or start over. I have a 5.1.4 OS X version on 
>>>> CD-ROM.
>>>>
>>>> But I also have a working install on another Mac here. Do you know 
>>>> if I
>>>> can just replace the bad export folder? Anybody?
>>>>
>>>> k