By the way, contrary to what I have read, I believe that iDVD3 works with the Pioneer DVR-104 as well. I didnt want to waste a disc on a test, but my drive was recognized fine.. David On Wednesday, February 5, 2003, at 07:39 PM, Thubten Kunga wrote: > Plus everyone who is retrofitting their G4 Processor upgraded G3 > Towers, G4 Towers and Cubes with Pioneer DVR-105 and slotload > SuperDrives inside. > > k > > On Wednesday, February 5, 2003, at 01:10 PM, James Asherman wrote: > >> Steve Demarest wrote: >> >>> Dear Listers; >>> >>> All of the iLife components, except iDVD are available free by >>> download. >>> >>> IDVD is available free with all superdrive macs >>> >>> IDVD only works with superdrive Macs >>> >>> So, who would want to buy iLife? >>> >>> >> all of us who have LAST YEAR'S superdrive G4's. >> Jim >