I feel that the confusion comes with the fact that there are effectively three types of CD blanks that are commonly available: 1) Those that are for _domestic_ stand-alone audio CD recorders only. The only batch of these that I have ever bought would not function in the SCSI-based CD burner that I was using at the time. This would have been about four years ago. These are the CDs with the licence-fee applied. You appear to have had success with these in a computer-based burner, but that is not my experience. In the UK at least, these CDs are pretty rare. 2) CDs that are specified as being for audio use but do _not_ have the licence fee applied. These should not work in the stand-alone recorders, although there were various hacks that were supposed to let you use them. These will work quite happily as data CDs. 3) CDs that are specified as being for data use. Most of these will work quite happily as audio CDs and the blanks that we are currently using are Imation 700 MByte disks that are specified as being for data or audio. > Which part of what I said is "not exactly correct"? Please point that > out to me. The original post and your reply were as follows: >> There is no difference between music and data CD-Rs. It's just a >> packaging gimmick to charge more. >This is absolutely false. If it were true you could just use data CD-Rs >in a standalone CD recorder and not pay the extra $$ right? Well, you >can't. Well, that depends on what you mean by a stand-alone recorder. Both my stand-alone recorders - a Marantz and an HHB, work with discs that fall into categories 2 and 3 above. The Marantz pre-dates the licence-paid CDs and the HHB works fine with non-licence paid audio and data CDs. Therefore, in my world at least, what you wrote is not exactly correct. I stand by what I said about the relative merits of different dye layers. I trust that this clarifies my statements. -- John Leonard Aura Sound Design Ltd. 23 Charlotte Road, Shoreditch London EC2A 3PB Tel: +44 (0)20 7739 6057 Fax: +44 (0)20 7729 1820 http://www.aurasound.co.uk