Those store employees are idiots. It is a brand new Pioneer DVR-105 and just started shipping in early December a month ago. If they have one, go get it while you can. It's Cendyne. And it's the deal of the year. DVR+ is less compatible with older DVD players. And it's slower 2.4x max. You may not have until tomorrow because they will be sold out. They should have already been sold out. You better call them back and have one held for you in your name in the CAGE. You won't be sorry you listened to me. Kunga On Thursday, January 2, 2003, at 02:12 PM, Steve Talkowski wrote: > Some more info... > > I just called the Whiteplains store and spoke with someone who > informed me that the Sendyne model was "an older model being > discontinued" with a new one being available (he didn't have that > model number on hand). He couldn't tell me if the Verbatum model > would work on a Mac though. > > How advantageous would it be having DVR- on the laptop and DVR+ on the > desktop? Best of both worlds, or a world of "incompatibility" hurt? > > I have until tomorrow to make a decision.