The OEM that Apple uses is Pioneer. iDVD WILL recognize a self-installed, internal Pioneer 103, 104, or 105. I have an A03 (103) in my 466 G4, and have burned many successful DVDs. The iDVD "upgrade" can be ordered directly from Apple for $19.95. It is a full install. I'm now running 2.1 with OSX 10.2.3. jon > From: Preston Seyle <pseyle at mac.com> > Reply-To: "Macintosh Digital Video List"<MacDV at lists.themacintoshguy.com> > Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 07:43:25 -0800 (PST) > To: "Macintosh Digital Video List" <MacDV at lists.themacintoshguy.com> > Subject: [MacDV] Re: $170 Pioneer DVR-105 NOT Working With iDVD 2.1 Inside 500 > MHz Blue & White G3 > > Apple made iDVD to work only with Apple internal OEM hardware.