I think this may have been covered before but can't remember the answer: I've tried to snag the Office Max deal on the Cendyne (DVR-105) here in Kansas City, but to no avail. One of the stores says it has the alternate model listed in the sales flyer (DVR-104???). I've already ordered the Cendyne DVR-105 thru MicroCenter Online ($200 after rebate) but now they're telling me it's back ordered. I'm afraid I'll get "back-ordered" until the 30-day limit expires, then they'll cancel my order and I'll be out of luck getting a good deal on this model. Did someone say they thought the DVR-104 model would still be a good deal (even at $200)??? I'm half tempted to cancel the MicroCenter order and try to pick up the DVR-104 from Office Max. As I understand it, the DVR-104 is just a 2x speed version, whereas the 105 is a 4x model. I have an 500mhz G3 iMac DV SE running 10.2.3. Could I still burn DVDs using the DVR-104 in an external firewire enclosure (using DVD Studio Pro 1.5)? Knock on wood, maybe the iDVD 2 update will support the external 104 or 105 models!!! -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ .