On Sunday, January 12, 2003, at 04:26 PM, Bobbo wrote: > before anyone gripes and derides me for being a fogy and a hanger-on, > try being in the audio business and being cornered into using X. Well, that's the way it is with a lot of broad-based technology. The product goes the way that's benefits the average person, and the people on the fringes get hosed. Its not that your problems aren't real - its just that nobody cares if making things better for 100,000 people cuts off a few hundred serious users. I know my HP1220 printer driver doesn't work right, and if I depended on it for a living, I'd be P.O'd. But overall, X is like a million times better than my OS 9 experience, so I just eat the cost and move on. I think the path they've taken is really about the best economically practical way to switch out the whole OS underneath a user base. I sure don't know of any case where its been pulled off before on such a scale. Its really a fantastic achievement that it worked as well as it did. And I think in the final analysis, your choices are to be hosed by having OS 9 become obsolete, or to be hosed by having Apple go out of business. SR